Q&A: For those of you that have never been to a foreign country and are opposed………..?
by Roger Smith
Question by Karma of the Poodle: For those of you that have never been to a foreign country and are opposed………..?
to much of the heath care reform options being proposed.
Many of the foreign countries that have a universal health care in place do not complain about what they have. Most of what we hear is propaganda by the opposing sectors. Why? Because they have financial interests in those Insurance companies, the manufacturers of medical supplies, and the pharmaceutical companies.
For example, when we go to Mexico to visit friends and family, I can buy Amoxicillin for $ 7 without a script. I also can buy many of the asthma inhalers for $ 10 without a script. This also goes for frequently prescribed blood pressure and heart medications. If I go see a doctor it costs approximately $ 30 per visit and this is NOT a copay. Specialists can run about $ 50. Dentists run about $ 20. To have a tooth filled (this includes local anesthetic, drill, fill, and clean) is about $ 150. And yes, they are very clean offices and sterilized. Here, it would cost me WITH insurance a copay of $ 400! Do you see anything wrong here? If I have to go to a doctor and get a script for a med, I can get top grade med from Phizer for about $ 20 to $ 50, here I would have to pay WITH insurance $ 10- if generic – $ 80 non generic, BUT I still had to pay my copay to the doctor and would probably be billed for anything insurance wouldn’t cover. That same med without insurance runs $ 120.
Do you see the problem here? Are we stupid enough to believe that the exact same meds (same company and name) I buy in Mexico for $ 25 are worth $ 120 dollars here? Have any of you that have had Amoxicillin prescribed for an infection seen or asked what it would cost (brand name) for it WITHOUT insurance? About $ 25.00 and you have to see a doctor before getting it. The same exact oxygen tube my mother buys for her oxygen tank (75 ft) supplied by insurance runs about $ 74. For one! I went to a manufacturer to ask how much to buy the exact same tubes and connectors in gross (12 in a case) and he told me $ 27! And the cost her insurance doesn’t cover is about $ 12 she has to pay every two weeks for new tubing.
Do we have to resort to buying our medical supplies from the suppliers direct and prescriptions from across the borders (Canada too)? Do any of you know another way to stop the glutony of the Insurance industry? Can you afford a better coverage plan that doesn’t cost more out of pocket? Why can they sell their meds and supplies in foreign countries so much cheaper yet we have to pay the higher end costs?
I want someone to explain why we have let this go on for so long? Mexico doesn’t have a “universal health care” system in place but yet can sell their meds and supplies cheaper. This is why I used my knowledge of their health care system rather than a universal one. They are supplied by the exact same companies we are but yet we pay 3 to 5x’s as much as they or any other country does. Why?
Thank you for your time.
Sorry, everyone, but thepeople dieing waiting for care in other countries will not phase me. That happens daily in the US as well, as so does misdiagnosis, wrong scripts, and over looked patients waiting for care. Take a look at some of the metropolitan Hospitals, clinics, and over booked doctors offices now.
They call a doctors business a “practice” for a reason, because if it was an exact science they would be Gods. And for the record, for the person that said I may be too young, I’m 45 yrs young and am well traveled. Also, I work in the insurance industry.
O’ryan – I didn’t lie! Just got two bottles in January of this year for $ 7 bucks. Granted it was in powdered form rather than pill. But I also bought penicillan for $ 8 in pill form.
And for those that think that is all the health care available to them is universal, you are wrong. There are insurance companies in many of those countries that actually are used to supplement their current national healthcare. The supplement can be used to fly or travel to various cities or countries to get specialized health care or a private physician or surgeon. Usually those of the upper middle class to above are the ones that can afford it. There are smaller policies offered to cover privatized elderly care as well which is relatively cheap.
Lloyds of London is one of the companies that owns a subsidiary for health care that is international.
And also, The English pound AND the Euro is still worth more than our US dollar, so money or economics is not the factor of universal health care.
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Answer by Chibi – thulhu
always interesting what people can justify and block out eh?
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